The Bible vs. Reason

A while back, I had an exchange about some Christians’ commitment to reason vs. faith with one TB (who was later to become somewhat infamous for his claim that he had been turned into a newt).

The context of that discussion was the ever-entertaining debate over accommodation, and the issue of people (like Senator Brownback) who will reject any science that — in their opinion — is in conflict with their reading of the Bible.

I made the point that some people would reject reason itself if they thought it undermined their faith, which claim TB challenged.

At the time, I brought up the creation museum as an example: they have an exhibit contrasting the conclusions that one reaches starting with “God’s Word” with the conclusion one reaches using “Human Reason.” (See pic. Source here)

Today I come across another example: Eric Hovind. Here he and his guest proudly posit two distinct starting points: For the Christian it’s the Bible; for the atheist it’s reason. Then they accuse the atheist of cheating, because the atheist refuses to allow the Christian’s ultimate authority (the “lordship of Jesus Christ”) any weight in the argument, while still insisting on using reason (the atheist’s “ultimate authority”).

What could be clearer? For Christians like Hovind, at least, faith is explicitly irrational.

(More laughing at the Hovind interview after the jump.)

Logic is a “fundamental assumption of the unbeliever,” they tell us in the next video. BUT logic is “not made of matter”, is “universal”, and “does not change”; and “those elements comport with the Christian worldview and nowhere else.”

Heh. Heh-heh. hee hee hee.

So . . . For the Christian, “logical contradictions amount to lying, and God tells us not to lie.”

“According to the atheist worldview we live in a world that is only made of matter, and it’s constantly changing. How do you get universal laws, which forbid contradiction, in a worldview like that? It just doesn’t happen.”

Short reply: Umm. Yes it does. The physicalist account is all about universal laws. And talk of “matter” is clearly confused.


One response to “The Bible vs. Reason

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